A: Not on account of his views, learning, or knowledge do the skilled here call one a sage. Those who live disarmed, undesiring, untroubled: those are called sages.
17. Whatever priests & contemplatives describe purity in terms of views & learning, describe purity in terms of precepts & practices, describe purity in terms of manifold ways: have they living there in that way, crossed over birth & aging?
A: Whatever priests & contemplatives describe purity in terms of views & learning, describe purity in terms of precepts & practices, describe purity in terms of manifold ways: none of them, living there in that way, have crossed over birth & aging.
18. Whatever priests & contemplatives describe purity in terms of views & learning, describe purity in terms of precepts & practices, describe purity in terms of manifold ways: if they've not crossed over the flood, then who in the world of beings divine & human has crossed over birth & aging?
A: Not all priests & contemplatives are shrouded in birth & aging. Those here who've abandoned what's seen, heard, & sensed, precepts & practices — all — who've abandoned their manifold ways — again, all — who, comprehending craving, are effluent-free: they are the ones who've crossed over the flood.
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
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